Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Sex, Cohabitation, Children, Marriage

Here’s a question prompted by discussion of my last post or two:

If you believe there is nothing wrong with sex outside of the marriage, living together, or having children out of wedlock, why should a man get married? What does he get from being married that he can’t get otherwise?

I’m not just posting those questions rhetorically. I want answers from anyone who happens to read this. Please tell me what you think. If you want to tell me but don’t want your comment public, say so in your comment and I won’t publish it (comments need my approvalnot agreement - to be published because I don’t want anyone being libeled on my blog).

If you think sex outside of marriage is okay and that living together is okay, but you think it is wrong to have children outside of marriage, then let’s assume the man doesn’t want children at all and has undergone a successful vasectomy. Same questions, then.

If anyone who thinks it is okay to have sex outside of marriage and live together unmarried is tempted to cite religion in their reason for a man to marry, please tell me which religion compels a man to marry but is okay with sex outside of marriage, living together, and, if applicable, having children out of wedlock.

I look forward to any answers. Thanks!

5 comments:

  1. I have had some thoughts along this line some time ago. Here is my two cents worth.

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  2. I think sex out of marriage is wrong. I'm a religious person, but even setting that aside they have proven that casual sex is bad for the psyche. I've been impressed hearing about The Anscombe Society at the Ivy leagues...they use intellectual argument against pre-marital sex rather than strict religious laws. I believe God gave us His "rules" for a reason...he's not an irrational God.

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  3. On my blog there was much discussion about this, read the comments.

    Evidently, the cost of living is so high, some people are willing to make compromises. Also, one lady stated that she hopes her daughter shacks up before rushing into a financial entanglement ... I mean marriage.

    Personally, I did not shack up, and my husband is the only man I've ever been with - going on year #11, I know you don't have to take a test drive, you just have to be committed to keeping your vows.

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  4. Anonymous1:04 PM

    I see nothing wrong with sex outside marriage since marriage is little more than a legal scam for the state to iterfere and favor social engineering schemes.

    If children result, I believe both parties should work to raise it if carried to term.

    I've been with a woman for 9 years now, no children, and don't regret it.

    I'm agnostic and not raving atheist. Christianity says some really stupid things about human sexuality and those that profess religion usually do more fornicating than nonbelievers.

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  5. It seems to me that there are 3 paths one can follow.

    1. Following a path of one of the religions.

    2. Following the path of "Nature"

    3. Or some kind of a mix of the two.

    On Religion.

    (Sincerely, I do not want to offend anyone on this topic.)

    (Lord Denning once said: "It's not the law, but the spirit of the law".)

    To follow a path through religion,
    I personally feel one aught to invoke the words of Lord Denning.

    My feeling is that there have been to many men/women involved in writing down what they say the "Creator" said.

    So I follow the 10 commandment as best I can, they are undoubtedly good rules. But no longer follow any of the written religions.

    If you do, then your path is petty clear.

    If you follow the path of "Nature" then you'll be following your own innate ideas.

    If you want sex outside of marriage, then you will, and think nothing of it.

    You'll be following your own set of, probably subconscious/internal beliefs.

    If your not any kind of a sociopath they will probably serve you well in this day and age.

    If you're any kind of a thinker you may well follow a mixed path.

    The problem

    The problem is that physical evolution is still way back in the hunter gatherer stage, while our mental evolution has far outstripped the former.

    So as I see it, one has a personal credo, and it's best to follow it.

    Follow What YOU believe in, while stepping over but not on other peoples beliefs.

    For society to prosper we have to have rules. It's your choice, to live inside or outside of the rules.

    So stick to your beliefs and be true to yourself.

    Once upon a time I was not a very nice person, and the "friends" I had weren't very nice either. So one day I decided to start being nice to people.

    My "friends" dissolved away as fast as I changed. Now I have fewer friends.

    The good thing about this is that now all my friends are good friends.

    I don't have to be false any more.

    Clinging to bad behavior because I was more comfortable with it, is not an option, if you want to be happy.

    So whatever path you follow, follow if faithfully, and all the questions in life will fade away.

    "Life is what you think it is, you are/become what you think".

    The question about weather you should have babies outside marriage is not really the question.

    It's about weather you're willing to do the rite thing by your new family.

    You can have religion or not, but don't start a family if you know you'll not finish.

    Getting through life successfully is about rules. The rules are man made, and natural. We have to live with both.

    Even though rite and wrong are man made ideologies.

    So if you want to live within society, follow the rules.

    We are no longer hunter gathers, if we were, it might be a better world. Living with nature and not screwing up the planet let alone our own lives.

    The answer is, do whatever you do honestly, and eventually you will not have to ask the questions again.

    I hope this all makes some sense to you.

    P.

    P.S.
    I like your blog a lot 10/10.

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