The Horse is Out of the Barn and the Robot is Out of the Box

Grab some popcorn and some tea and peruse the panicked, hysterical shrieking of the controlling women and their enablers who can't stand the idea that more and more men will be enjoying robots that essentially amount to advanced dolls and sex toys. [This entry is bumped up because it is as relevant as ever.]

Technology is always going to be applied to sex, if there is any way it can be. This is human nature.

Sex dolls and sex robots or whatever you want to call them will never be effectively banned. Aside from the fact that prohibiting the private ownership and use of personal objects isn't practical, how exactly do you ban these things without banning a bunch of other things? How do you define a sex robot or a sex doll? Some men will stick their penises in knotholes in a plank of wood. Are you going to ban planks of wood? No. So, are you going to ban all robots? All dolls? All sex toys or masturbation aids? Any three-dimensional representation of a person?

Despite the futility, some women (and the men who enable them) are trying to ban these elaborate masturbatory aids.


Some of them can't stand the idea of men enjoying themselves without a woman around.

Some are afraid men who'd otherwise pay these women attention, provide them with direct financial support, and labor for them will redirect to the robots. Such women are admitting they have nothing better to offer than a robot, or at least the downsides they bring outweigh any positives they bring in comparison to robots. But most of these men don't want to deal with women and wouldn't whether or not there was a robot around.

Sure, especially if you're offering to broadcast him, you can find men who want to take the "action figure" everywhere. These guys are very rare exceptions, and I suspect they do it for attention, especially to upset women. And it works! Almost all people who use these masturbatory devices will keep them entirely private.

It's quite entertaining to see the women who are upset about these action figures. I interact with some of them on Twitter.

They say things like:

"They can't love you like a real woman!" That depends entirely on how you define "love". How do modern Anglosphere wives love their husbands, exactly? Enthusiastic sex? Companionship? Respect, encouragement, consolation? Keeping the home clean? Doing the cooking, dishes, and laundry? A lot of women don't want to do those things or at least not long into a marriage. Now, they won't have to! But even if a robot can't love a man like a woman can, they also won't reject him, nag him, accumulate bills, subject him to paternity fraud, disrespect him, gossip about him, divorce him, take his money, invite her annoying mother over or to move in, etc.

"They can't cook, clean, or the laundry!" Most wives don't do these things anymore, or constantly whine about it. And give it some time. Robots will be doing these things if guys don't want to do them themselves.

"You can't get a real woman!" For guys for whom this is true, isn't this like telling a guy using a prosthetic leg, "You're missing a real leg!" What's the point? Should guys unable to attract a woman be denied some masturbatory pleasure? But most men who will enjoy these sexbots CAN get a woman. They just don't want one.

"You just don't want to deal with a real woman." Right! Now you're getting the picture! You see, even if these didn't exist, many of the men who have no human companion still won't get a human companion. Women are deluded if they think that getting rid of these would mean they can be bitchy, butch, fat, and high maintenance and the men will have no choice but to be with them.

"You can't handle a real woman." Well sure, these guys can. They can also handle being run over by a bus, but why would they want to? What we now call marriage is for the ignorant, delusional, or masochistic.

"This objectifies women!" How? These aren't women. They are action figures. If anything, these toys free women up from objectification. And it's driving women even more batty, because women who are attracted to men usually like men to see them as sex objects, whether they admit or not. Girls have played with dolls representing women forever. Sculptors have made statues representing women. To say that is different because that isn't about masturbation reveals the problem isn't the robot, it's that the person objecting doesn't like that men masturbate.

"This is training men for abuse!" This can't even apply to men who've sworn off women. This could only possibly be applicable to men who do have sex with women but never masturbate without these aids. But men have been masturbating, with and without aids, for all of human history. Men understand the difference between masturbation and sex. If a man doesn't the problem is definitely not the doll.

"But she can't say no!" Are you worried that your toaster oven or television can't say no? That a tub of ice cream can't say no? That your vibrator can't say no? That the performers in a movie can't say no every time you start it? These articulated or animated mannequins are not a human. They're not even an animal or plant. They are toys. Like vibrators.

"But a doll is like a woman, a vibrator is not like a man!" Didn't you just say that these dolls can't treat us like real women?

"It's sad that a man would choose this." Is it? It's sad that men get trashed in divorces, even subjected to retroactive alimony. It's sad that men are forced to pay for homes in which they can no longer live. It's sad that men feel obligated to stay in miserable, even abusive marriages. It's sad when a man is subjected to paternity fraud. It's sad when a man is falsely accused of rape. It's sad that men get duped into paying to feed and entertain a woman who parts with him at her front door so she can text her bad boy booty call to come on over and do his thing.

"Women can have sex robots, too!" Yes, yes they can. That doesn't bother us in the slightest. Why does it bother you that men can have sex robots?

These are essentially masturbation aids. If you think masturbation is wrong, say so. If your complaint is about masturbation or using something artificial to masturbate, then you have to give up your vibrators. "That's not the same!" That's what they said on Twitter. But they couldn't explain how. Perhaps they meant "But women like them!"? It is arguable that this is actually better than a man masturbating to the thoughts of a real woman (lusting).

As far as I can tell, people who believe humans are mere molecules with no spirit that wills the body  and exists after death really can't argue that advanced robots could never replace a real person in a relationship. Whats the difference?

Here's an example of an article from The Guardian from July 2017.

Sex robots have the potential to provide a valuable service for people who are elderly, disabled or who find intercourse traumatic, but they also carry ethical risks, experts say.

Experts.

The authors behind the Foundation for Responsible Robotics’ (FRR) report, published on Wednesday, believe they could herald a “revolution” in sex, helping people who would otherwise find it hard to have intimate relationships.

But they also raise concerns that sex robots could increase the objectification of women, alter perceptions of consent and be used to satisfy desires that would otherwise be illegal. Dr Aimee van Wynsberghe, assistant professor in ethics and technology at the Technical University of Delft and FRR co-director, said: “If we are talking about individuals who are not only disabled but have been traumatised, in some ways this could be a beneficial instrument, if you will, to help them in their [sexual] healing process.

Medicinal sex robots?

“There are absolutely some benefits to the technology but, like everything else, there is a balance. You have to strike a balance between lack of regulation – so we have all different uses and personifications of children and women as sexual objects – or you have overregulation and you stifle the technology. You have to find the way to balance so you really can harness the good.”

I have to wonder if anyone would care about "objectification" if women or gay men use "male" robots?

Report co-author Noel Sharkey, professor of artificial intelligence and robotics at Sheffield University, said their popularity will ultimately be determined by how realistic they are and their social acceptability. While robots look similar to humans, their movements and speech are still crude, said Sharkey, making them a far cry from the robotic bordello hosts in the HBO series Westworld. “It might be a little niche thing or it might be something that stag nights go to,” said Sharkey. He also raised the prospect of it being a “safe way” for couples to experience a ménage à trois.

Four manufacturers are currently making sex robots, ranging in price from $5,000 (£3,870) to $15,000, but the intention is to eventually make them more affordable.

They will get more affordable and more realistic.

Among those available is the RoxxxyGold, about which there has been some disquiet because of a selectable mode – Frigid Farah – in which its personality is described as “reserved and shy”. A paper published earlier this year said the manufacturer claimed that if “you touched her in a private area, more than likely, she will not be to[o] appreciative of your advance”, leading some to claim that it is indulging rape fantasies.

There's plenty of written erotica, for both men and women that does this already.

Sharkey said: “Some people say: ‘Well, it’s better they rape robots than rape real people.’ That’s one of the arguments … you can have enjoyable [sex] with your wife - all nice - but when it comes to rape, you have a rape fantasy, you go off and rape a robot. But there’s other people saying this will just encourage rapists more.

That's the question, isn't it? Are these toys are more likely to incite someone to rape or be a release that is more likely to prevent them from raping?

”There are also fears that child sex robots could be created. There are already child sex dolls made by a Japanese company owned by a self-confessed paedophile, who claims they prevent him and other paedophiles abusing real children.

I don't know how this can be prevented. It's very hard to stop people from making stuff they want, especially if it is something that stays in their own home, in their bedroom.

However, Sharkey is sceptical of the argument that robots can help people get over rape or child sex fantasies, suggesting it is more likely to “encourage paedophilia and make it acceptable to assault children”.

Based on what?

Porn featuring adult women has become ubiquitous and easy to access. As that happened, rape/sexual assault of women decreased. Now we're at the point that sexual harassment by men is being called out everywhere and powerful men are losing their careers over it. According to alarmist, panicked prohibitionists, all these women would be publicly kept as sex slaves by now, given the mass consumption of porn, if porn really made rape more likely. Instead, these women are saying someone touched them or talked to them inappropriately and they are automatically being believed and taken very seriously.

The report quotes Patrick Lin, director of the ethics and emerging sciences group, at California Polytechnic State University, who says: “Treating paedophiles with robot sex-children is both a dubious and repulsive idea. Imagine treating racism by letting a bigot abuse a brown robot. Would that work? Probably not.”

Has treating racism that way ever been tried? Sexual desires aren't the same thing as racial hatred, though.

One need not defend "child" dolls to defend "adult" dolls. But even if someone agrees that sex robots are a bad thing, so what?

Good luck defining "sex robot" for prohibition purposes.

You can't effectively ban dolls.
You can't effectively ban sex toys
You can't effectively ban people from masturbating with dolls. Or vibrators. Or pillows.

Some time in the not-too-distant future, a man will come home, be greeted at the door by his robot, who will look, feel, sound/talk, smell, taste, and move/behave in customized ways so as to maximize his arousal and pleasure. This robot, and the machines and services that provide him with prepared meals, cleaning, and other domestic services, will cost him far less than half of his income, and provide him with far less frustration and irritation than a human being. There will be men who will be perfectly content to live this way all of their life.

And there's not much you can do to stop that.

So stop wasting time and energy complaining about it. Spend your time more productively, such as being a good spouse or making yourself more productively independent.